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From: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
To: Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD <plagnioj@jcrosoft.com>
Cc: barebox@lists.infradead.org, Juergen Beisert <jbe@pengutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Dedicated command to make a target bootable with Barebox
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:30:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120903113021.GI26594@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120903105534.GA19931@game.jcrosoft.org>

On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 12:55:34PM +0200, Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD wrote:
> On 12:32 Mon 03 Sep     , Juergen Beisert wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > currently I'm working on the difficult process to make an i.MX35 SoC boot from 
> > an externally connected NAND device.
> > 
> > Nothing special with it, only the NAND flash controller in the i.MX35 (also in 
> > i.MX25, i.MX27 and i.MX31) is braindamaged broken. This controller loses the 
> > factory bad block markers when used without a workaround and losing these 
> > markers is a _really_ bad idea.
> > 
> > But to use the workaround on these SoCs it needs a complicated preparation of 
> > the NAND. Doing it manually is very error prone. And this kind of preparation 
> > has to be kept when the system should be updated and so on. Not easy to 
> > explain and so much more chances for the user to brick the system while the 
> > update process.
> > 
> > This makes me think about a dedicated command which is responsible to make the 
> > target bootable and does all the (more or less complicated) steps to ensure 
> > the next time it gets powered it's able to boot again.
> > 
> > There are more architectures which needs a complicated setup to be able to 
> > boot it from some kind of externally connected devices like NAND or eMMCs for 
> > example. Some needs special NAND checksums only for the bootloader, others 
> > needs to keep the partition table even if the bootloader gets updated and so 
> > on.
> > 
> > Would it be possible to share one command (or one group of commands) by all 
> > architectures? And each architecture adds its special code to the command? 
> > 
> > What kind of setup procedures we must cover with such a command?
> > 
> > My examples:
> > 
> > - for the Freescale i.MX SoCs with the broken NFC we must write the bootloader
> >   in a different way than all the remaining data into the NAND device
> > - for the Samsung S36410 we must save the factory bad block markers first to
> >   support booting from NAND as its internal ROM expects the checksums at a
> >   strange offset in the OOB area
> On some ST SoC it's the same I think we do not need any command we just need
> to specify it as mtd level for a specific mtd part

A command has the advantage that for example we could also check for
valid images before flashing them (does it have a correct barebox
header?). This could be checked before actually erasing a sector.
Also, flashing boot images is not limited to mtd devices, it could also
be mmc, or for OMAP, not a device at all but a file inside a FAT on SD
card.

Sascha

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-03 11:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-03 10:32 Juergen Beisert
2012-09-03 10:55 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-03 11:30   ` Sascha Hauer [this message]
2012-09-03 11:52     ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-03 11:37   ` Juergen Beisert

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