From: Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD <plagnioj@jcrosoft.com>
To: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
Cc: barebox@lists.infradead.org, Juergen Beisert <jbe@pengutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Dedicated command to make a target bootable with Barebox
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:52:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120903115259.GB19931@game.jcrosoft.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120903113021.GI26594@pengutronix.de>
On 13:30 Mon 03 Sep , Sascha Hauer wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 12:55:34PM +0200, Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD wrote:
> > On 12:32 Mon 03 Sep , Juergen Beisert wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > currently I'm working on the difficult process to make an i.MX35 SoC boot from
> > > an externally connected NAND device.
> > >
> > > Nothing special with it, only the NAND flash controller in the i.MX35 (also in
> > > i.MX25, i.MX27 and i.MX31) is braindamaged broken. This controller loses the
> > > factory bad block markers when used without a workaround and losing these
> > > markers is a _really_ bad idea.
> > >
> > > But to use the workaround on these SoCs it needs a complicated preparation of
> > > the NAND. Doing it manually is very error prone. And this kind of preparation
> > > has to be kept when the system should be updated and so on. Not easy to
> > > explain and so much more chances for the user to brick the system while the
> > > update process.
> > >
> > > This makes me think about a dedicated command which is responsible to make the
> > > target bootable and does all the (more or less complicated) steps to ensure
> > > the next time it gets powered it's able to boot again.
> > >
> > > There are more architectures which needs a complicated setup to be able to
> > > boot it from some kind of externally connected devices like NAND or eMMCs for
> > > example. Some needs special NAND checksums only for the bootloader, others
> > > needs to keep the partition table even if the bootloader gets updated and so
> > > on.
> > >
> > > Would it be possible to share one command (or one group of commands) by all
> > > architectures? And each architecture adds its special code to the command?
> > >
> > > What kind of setup procedures we must cover with such a command?
> > >
> > > My examples:
> > >
> > > - for the Freescale i.MX SoCs with the broken NFC we must write the bootloader
> > > in a different way than all the remaining data into the NAND device
> > > - for the Samsung S36410 we must save the factory bad block markers first to
> > > support booting from NAND as its internal ROM expects the checksums at a
> > > strange offset in the OOB area
> > On some ST SoC it's the same I think we do not need any command we just need
> > to specify it as mtd level for a specific mtd part
>
> A command has the advantage that for example we could also check for
> valid images before flashing them (does it have a correct barebox
> header?). This could be checked before actually erasing a sector.
> Also, flashing boot images is not limited to mtd devices, it could also
> be mmc, or for OMAP, not a device at all but a file inside a FAT on SD
> card.
for this part I agree but for the oob we must handle it at mtd level otherwise
the mtdcore will taint on bad ecc as example
Best Regards,
J.
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Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-03 10:32 Juergen Beisert
2012-09-03 10:55 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-03 11:30 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-09-03 11:52 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD [this message]
2012-09-03 11:37 ` Juergen Beisert
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