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From: Marco Felsch <m.felsch@pengutronix.de>
To: Ahmad Fatoum <a.fatoum@pengutronix.de>
Cc: BAREBOX <barebox@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/23] ARM: i.MX8M: add support to pass DT via imx8m{m,n,q,p}_load_and_start_image_via_tfa()
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2026 20:09:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260118190910.kz45bwlaujcq6bxz@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50ee3a64-a59f-42fc-a26b-cf8ff3176142@pengutronix.de>

Hi Ahmad,

On 26-01-15, Ahmad Fatoum wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 1/15/26 3:01 PM, Ahmad Fatoum wrote:
> > I have grown to dislike the boilerplate nature of our PBL entry points.
> > I want to rework this fully in the coming months, so I would prefer not
> > to add intermediate breakage till then, so users can switch at once to
> > the new model.
> 
> I think I need to clarify this a little:
> 
> It's fine to break out-of-tree code. If it's some breakage that may
> easily be missed by users, we add a migration guide entry.
> That's why we have the guides in the first place.

Good point, I missed to add an entry for it.

> In this case, I believe handover is a good solution on its own merits
> and not introducing unnecessary breakage right now is a good side-effect.

I get your point regarding the unnecessary breakage. It would have been
nice if we could have a TF-A loading abstraction within the PBL since
loading the TF-A and (opt. OP-TEE OS) is mostly the same on each and
every ARMv8-A SoC and we tend to adapt barebox rather than adapting the
TF-A binary.

However I would like to mention that handover data was meant to be
passing data between the PBL and barebox. We would repurpose the
handover mechanism if we would use the handover data. In this case it
could be re-used in several other places. Therefore I'm not a fan of
this idea.

What do you think about adding the 'fdt' support only to the 'lowlevel'
APIs:
  - __imx8mp_load_and_start_image_via_tfa()
  - __imx8mm_load_and_start_image_via_tfa()
  - __imx8mn_load_and_start_image_via_tfa()
?

These APIs are most certainly not used by anyone who is using the
current standard way of booting OP-TEE for these platforms. Of course we
could also add helpers like:

imx8mn_load_and_start_image_via_tfa_with_fdt()

but the naming is becoming very clunky.

> if it turns out to not work out of the box or complicate things in an
> disproportionate manner, please let me know and we can re-evaluate.

Please see my above points.

Regards,
  Marco

> 
> Thanks,
> Ahmad
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-18 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-10 20:34 [PATCH 00/23] Improve OP-TEE handling Marco Felsch
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 01/23] pbl: compressed-dtb: add missing includes Marco Felsch
2026-01-14 12:03   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 02/23] pbl: fdt: fix fdt_fixup_mem error handling Marco Felsch
2026-01-14 12:04   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 03/23] ARM: atf: add missing includes in atf_common.h Marco Felsch
2026-01-14 12:04   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 04/23] ARM: i.MX8M: add support to pass DT via imx8m{m,n,q,p}_load_and_start_image_via_tfa() Marco Felsch
2026-01-14 12:14   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2026-01-15 13:26     ` Marco Felsch
2026-01-15 14:01       ` Ahmad Fatoum
2026-01-15 15:27         ` Ahmad Fatoum
2026-01-18 19:09           ` Marco Felsch [this message]
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 05/23] ARM: i.MX8M: cosmetic cleanup Marco Felsch
2026-01-14 12:04   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 06/23] ARM: i.MX8M: move BL32 setup into imx8m_tfa_start_bl31() Marco Felsch
2026-01-14 12:21   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 07/23] ARM: i.MX8M: imx8m_tfa_start_bl31() add support for bl33 and fdt Marco Felsch
2026-01-14 12:25   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 08/23] pbl: decomp: add pbl_dtbz_uncompress helper Marco Felsch
2026-01-14 12:28   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2026-01-18 18:11     ` Marco Felsch
2026-01-18 18:17       ` Marco Felsch
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 09/23] pbl: fdt: add pbl_load_fdt helper Marco Felsch
2026-01-15 14:18   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2026-01-18 19:18     ` Marco Felsch
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 10/23] ARM: i.MX: scratch: add FDT support Marco Felsch
2025-11-11 14:14   ` Sascha Hauer
2025-11-11 14:30     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-11-11 15:06       ` Marco Felsch
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 11/23] ARM: i.MX8M: esdctl: drop ddrc base from imx8m_ddrc_sdram_size Marco Felsch
2026-01-15 13:08   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 12/23] ARM: i.MX8M: esdctl: export imx8m_ddrc_sdram_size() Marco Felsch
2026-01-15 13:09   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 13/23] ARM: i.MX8M: add support to pass BL3x bl_params Marco Felsch
2026-01-15 15:30   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2026-01-18 19:34     ` Marco Felsch
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 14/23] ARM: i.MX: scratch: add OP-TEE FDTO support Marco Felsch
2026-01-15 14:47   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2026-01-18 18:27     ` Marco Felsch
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 15/23] pbl: string: add strncmp Marco Felsch
2026-01-14 12:05   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 16/23] pbl: fdt: add fdt_copy_node helper Marco Felsch
2026-01-15 14:34   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2026-01-18 19:53     ` Marco Felsch
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 17/23] handoff-data: Add BL32_DT_OVL entry Marco Felsch
2026-01-15 14:31   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 18/23] security: optee: add optee_extract_fdto helper Marco Felsch
2026-01-15 14:36   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2026-01-18 19:58     ` Marco Felsch
2025-11-10 20:34 ` [PATCH 19/23] security: optee: add helpers to apply OP-TEE FDTO Marco Felsch
2026-01-15 14:49   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2026-01-18 20:11     ` Marco Felsch
2025-11-10 20:35 ` [PATCH 20/23] ARM: i.MX8M: Add support to extract OP-TEE provided informations Marco Felsch
2025-11-17  9:15   ` Sascha Hauer
2026-01-15 14:50     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2026-01-15 15:19       ` Marco Felsch
2026-01-15 15:24         ` Ahmad Fatoum
2026-01-16  9:51           ` Marco Felsch
2026-01-18 20:26             ` Marco Felsch
2025-11-10 20:35 ` [PATCH 21/23] of: base: register optional OP-TEE overlay Marco Felsch
2026-01-15 14:51   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-11-10 20:35 ` [PATCH 22/23] pbl: add support to disable/remove the /secure-chosen/stdout-path Marco Felsch
2026-01-14 13:17   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-11-10 20:35 ` [PATCH 23/23] ARM: i.MX8M: remove /secure-chosen/stdout-path if requested Marco Felsch
2026-01-15 14:17   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2026-01-16  8:15 ` [PATCH 00/23] Improve OP-TEE handling Sascha Hauer

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