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Wed, 11 Feb 2026 10:58:59 +0100 Received: from pty.whiteo.stw.pengutronix.de ([2a0a:edc0:2:b01:1d::c5]) by drehscheibe.grey.stw.pengutronix.de with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vq6zp-000DuL-2N; Wed, 11 Feb 2026 10:58:59 +0100 Received: from sha by pty.whiteo.stw.pengutronix.de with local (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vq6zq-00BqcU-38; Wed, 11 Feb 2026 10:58:58 +0100 Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2026 10:58:58 +0100 From: Sascha Hauer To: Ahmad Fatoum Cc: Marco Felsch , barebox@lists.infradead.org Message-ID: References: <20260210221343.3431882-1-m.felsch@pengutronix.de> <1672b0e8-65ac-4f92-afb7-e5c9eb798537@pengutronix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1672b0e8-65ac-4f92-afb7-e5c9eb798537@pengutronix.de> X-Sent-From: Pengutronix Hildesheim X-URL: http://www.pengutronix.de/ X-Accept-Language: de,en X-Accept-Content-Type: text/plain X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20260211_015901_307642_46EA6E3E X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 33.33 ) X-BeenThere: barebox@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: "barebox" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2607:7c80:54:3::133 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: barebox-bounces+lore=pengutronix.de@lists.infradead.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on metis.whiteo.stw.pengutronix.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] ARM: dts: i.MX8MP: remove barebox environment handling X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Wed, 08 May 2019 21:11:16 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on metis.whiteo.stw.pengutronix.de) On Wed, Feb 11, 2026 at 10:37:18AM +0100, Ahmad Fatoum wrote: > Hi, > > On 2/11/26 8:53 AM, Sascha Hauer wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2026 at 11:13:40PM +0100, Marco Felsch wrote: > >> While specifying the barebox environment within the barebox dts is very > >> helpful for standalone barebox development it's difficult for BSPs which > >> use this development platform and want to use the GPT mechanism. > >> As a result BSPs had to manually delete the nodes via a external > >> provided dts, because we wanted to keep the comfort for the standalone > >> development flow. > >> > >> Lucky commit 86531d4bf7aa ("commands: create createnv command") > >> introduced a convenient helper to create a barebox environemnt on > >> demand exactly for this purpose: > >> > >> | "We want to move away from describing the barebox environment explicitly > >> | in the device tree and instead motivate usage of GPT partitions.." > >> > >> So start with the i.MX8MP-EVK to encourage the use of GPT partitions and > >> to make the BSP integration for these development platforms easier. > > > > Generally I like this idea, but it breaks the existing users > > environment and doing this sharp cut might be annoying for the phase > > where you switch between different barebox versions which could be quite > > common for development boards. > > > > Would be great to have a grace period in which we prefer the UUID > > environment over the device tree environment (we might do this already) > > and warn in case we still use the latter. We could stick the warning to > > a device tree property like "warn-deprecated-env" and remove the > > environment once they carry this property for a year or so. > > > > Just the ideas from the top of my head. Thoughts? > > Here's my opinion from a year back: > https://lore.barebox.org/barebox/1ff0f545-effa-4b87-81b7-524919333777@pengutronix.de/ > > I am interested to hear thoughts on it. > Compared to our suggestion, there will be no eventual removal of the node. Seems to match mostly what I said, only that instead of a warn-deprecated-env property you suggest a different compatible which I think better matches what we are doing. Whether or not we remove the fallback nodes in future is something our future-selves can discuss. Sascha -- Pengutronix e.K. | | Steuerwalder Str. 21 | http://www.pengutronix.de/ | 31137 Hildesheim, Germany | Phone: +49-5121-206917-0 | Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686 | Fax: +49-5121-206917-5555 |