From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from mickerik.phytec.de ([195.145.39.210]) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1jt3zq-0006mI-Az for barebox@lists.infradead.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 06:55:59 +0000 References: <1593524914-228154-1-git-send-email-r.karszniewicz@phytec.de> <1a2cb925-dccd-8de7-08da-c4abe76d473c@phytec.de> <20200701055834.GK15485@pengutronix.de> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Stefan_Riedm=c3=bcller?= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 08:55:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200701055834.GK15485@pengutronix.de> Content-Language: en-US List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: "barebox" Errors-To: barebox-bounces+u.kleine-koenig=pengutronix.de@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Introduce global.bootm.root env var for booting via PARTUUID To: Sascha Hauer Cc: barebox@lists.infradead.org, Robert Karszniewicz Hi Sascha, let me answer on behalf of Robert. On 01.07.20 07:58, Sascha Hauer wrote: > Hi Robert, > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 04:20:17PM +0200, Robert Karszniewicz wrote: >> The problem is that we want to be able to have the rootfs and kernel on >> separate partitions. > > Why do you want to have that? It's kind of traditional to have the > kernel separated from the rootfs in some extra "kernel" partition, but > are there good reasons for it? There's an overhead in that the > bootloader has to read from a filesystem instead of only a raw > partition. Is that the reason? Actually the reason is that we have this separate setup for quite some time now in the field and changing it would have a whole string of consequences attached to it. So we try not to change this setup, at least for existing systems. That is why we would like to be able to get the PARTUUID from another Partition than the one containing the kernel image. What do you think of Roberts proposal? > > Here at Pengutronix we are happy that we only have one partition image > that has everything needed to boot, including a description how to boot > it and including the kernel. No extra items that the bootloader has to > take care of, just put one thing somewhere and be done with it. This sounds like a good thing to have and I think we should consider this for new platforms. Regards, Stefan > >> We've looked into the Boot Loader Specification, but >> from what we saw, it makes A-B systems difficult (according to the spec, >> there can only be one "$BOOT" filesystem on a device). > > barebox is more relaxed here. What we do here is to put two full root > filesystems into two different partitions on a SD/MMC. Each of the > partitions has one or more /loader/entries/*.conf file(s) and kernels. > You can then boot with "boot mmc0.0" into the first rootfs or with "boot > mmc0.1" into the second. > This may not be really conform to the specification, but works in > barebox and is a supported usecase. We do this for A/B Boot scenarios in > many projects. > > Regards, > Sascha > _______________________________________________ barebox mailing list barebox@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/barebox